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A Case For Religious History Classes, Take 2 : Newt Gingrich On "The Mosque"

Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:50 PM EDT
politics, islam, newt-gingrich, nyc, 2012-elections, newt, 2012-presidential-race
By Kathy Gill
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Earlier this month, in the wake of the Prop8 ruling, I learned that the linkage of "marriage" and religious norms is an artifact of the Catholic Church's fight for its life in the 16th century.

I had no idea that I would soon be plunged into another politico-religious controversy where understanding history would be essential. If I were a student of former history professor Newt Gingrich, I would think that the proposed Islamic community center in NY City is "deliberately insulting," as he argued in July:

[Most] don't understand that "Cordoba House" is a deliberately insulting term. It refers to Cordoba, Spain – the capital of Muslim conquerors who symbolized their victory over the Christian Spaniards by transforming a church there into the world's third-largest mosque complex.

Today, some of the Mosque's backers insist this term is being used to "symbolize interfaith cooperation" when, in fact, every Islamist in the world recognizes Cordoba as a symbol of Islamic conquest. It is a sign of their contempt for Americans and their confidence in our historic ignorance that they would deliberately insult us this way.

The problem with this scenario is that Gingrich has cherry-picked his history. It is Gingrich who is relying on "confidence in our historic ignorance" coupled with his ability to dispense "rhetorical napalm" to fabricate a controversy that seems to have tapped a deep reservoir of hate and intolerance.

From Sacred Places (Sweet Brier College, VA):

  • When Córdoba was a provincial capital in the Roman Empire, the site was occupied by a temple dedicated to Janus, the double-headed god of doorways and gates.
  • The Visigoths built a Christian church dedicated to Saint Vincent there around 500 CE. (Who remembers the Visigoths?)
  • The Great Mosque of Córdoba was founded 785 CE. Over a 200-year period it became the third largest structure in the Islamic world.
  • In the 13th century, Córdoba was captured by the Christian Spanish king of Castile, Ferdinand III; the mosque reverted to a Christian sanctuary.
  • In 1523, the local clergy, with the support of Emperor Charles V, built a cathedral in the middle of the mosque.

Thus, rather than being a symbol of Islamic conquest, a comprehensive review suggests Córdoba is a symbol of Christian conquest: approximately 300 500 years* as Islamic versus approximately a millennium as Christian.

The soundbite is vintage Gingrich.

And it reflects this 1997 this indictment of his history course, Renewing American Civilization:

I am troubled by the chapter. Perhaps I don't understand the purpose of the course, but if it is to be a course rather than a series of sermons, this chapter won't do. It is bland, vague, hortatory and lacking in substance. But this chapter does not strike me as a thoughtful examination of the sources or importance of character in American life. Philosophically, it is a mishmash of undefined terms ("the universal immune power"), misleading claims ("principles are natural laws"), and unclear distinctions (e.g., between principles and values). Scientifically, it is filled with questionable or unsupported generalizations (e.g., standards of acceptable conduct are influenced more by the media than by the family, broadcasting cannot continue to live by the numbers, since World War I Americans have lost sight of right and wrong in favor of "quick-fix mentality," etc.)

Historically, it does not represent Adam Smith correctly. . . . The Founders are also treated somewhat cavalierly. It is true that George Washington spoke often of the importance of virtue, but he didn't write the Constitution; Madison and a few others did. In the Federalist papers, Madison defends that Constitution by saying that it does not require virtue for its operation: ambition will be made to counteract ambition.

I could go on, but I dare not for fear I have misunderstood what this enterprise is all about. I am a professor, and so I bring the perspectives (and limitations) of a professor to bear on this matter. If this is not to be a course but instead a sermon, then you should get a preacher to comment on it.

-- Conservative scholar James Q. Wilson

This critique was commissioned by a Congressional Ethics Committee because the course would "lie at the heart of the controversy over his use of tax-exempt funds." In 1997, the House of Representative endorsed (395-to-28) the "most severe penalty ($300,000) ever imposed on a Speaker."

So why are we listening to this man about anything remotely political, particularly history?

A Brief Bio Of Gingrich
After obtaining a PhD in modern European history from Tulane University, from 1970 to 1978 Gingrich taught history at West Georgia College (now the University of West Georgia) in Carrollton. He left reportedly because he was denied tenure. He became Speaker of the House and crafted the GOP "Contract With America." Esquire has an interview with Marianne Gingrich, wife number two, in its September issue. Read it: this is a man, after all, with his eye on the White House.

At a moment of doctrinal crisis in the Republican party, Newt Gingrich is the only major figure in his party who is both insurgent and gray eminence. That is why twelve years after his career ended — twelve years after any other man in his position would have disappeared from view — he is ascendant.

"Will he run?" Marianne asks. "Possibly. Because he doesn't connect things like normal people. There's a vacancy — kind of scary, isn't it?"

One thing is certain — Newt Gingrich loves the question. "That's up to God and the American people," he tells you, in the serene tone of a man who already knows what God thinks.

Learn how Gingrich has recovered from his $300,000 fine from the Congressional Ethics Committee for misusing tax-exempt funds for partisan purposes -- it's not pretty ("he's 'making more money than he ever thought possible, and doesn't have to tell everybody where it's coming from') -- and how he has maneuvered his way into such prominence that his false history lesson, the one that opened this essay, has successfully driven our increasingly hateful and divisive political rhetoric.

Read it and don't weep: speak up instead.

* Math corrected at 2.59 pm

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Kathy Gill

Also at TMV. Seriously - Go read the Esquire article.

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Reply#1 - Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:57 PM EDT
Kathy Gill

In case I wasn't explicit enough: taking an existing religious site and converting it after conquest was the norm, not an exception. One could argue that it is still the norm: look at what the U.S. did in Iraq with the presidential palaces, eh?

From The Jewish Virtual Library

The Romans (206 B.C.E.) built the original city on the most strategic site of the Guadalquivir River. From Cordoba, they shipped Spanish olive oil, wine and wheat back to Rome. They built the mighty bridge that spans the river, El Puente Romano. But the city's greatest glory was to be achieved under the Moors (711). Cordoba became the capital of El Andalus and was destined to become a center of Moorish art, architecture, philosophy and poetry.

The city's most famous landmark, Mezquita, or Great Mosque, was one of the largest in all Islam. An investigation into the history of this magnificent structure reveals the checkered story of Cordoba's past. The Romans built a pagan temple on the site which was destroyed by the Visigoths (400 - 711) when they conquered Spain. In its stead, the Goths erected a church for St. Vincent which, in turn, was razed by the victorious Moors, who set to work building the Mezquita. The spectacular landmark took more than 200 years to complete and more than 1,000 pillars of granite, onyx, marble and jasper support its arches. When the Christians seized the city in 1236 they were awed by the beauty of the mosque and decided to build a cathedral in the midst of its columns and arches. Another famous monument is the Alcazar, or Fortress, which was constructed by the Christians in 1326.

From Associated Content:

Cordoba had been the largest city of Roman Spain, and remained prominent under the rule of the Germanic barbarians who settled there. Under Moorish rule it would become the capital of Al-Andalus: Mooris

[...]

Its hallmark is the massive prayer hall, which after the last construction under al-Mansur had an area of over 158,000 square feet, including over 1200 columns. These columns were and still are the hallmark of the Mezquita's grandeur.

Unfortunately today these columns are obstructed by a small church built directly in the center of the prayer hall. This church was built in the 13th century shortly after the conquest of Cordoba by Fernando el Santo. Despite this break in the glory of the original mosque, it is still a beautiful site to behold today.

And what was life like at the turn of the millineum?

In The Age of Faith historian Will Durant wrote: “For five centuries, from 700 to 1200, Islam led the world in power, in refinement of manners, in standards of living; in humane legislation and religious tolerance; in literature, scholarship, science, medicine, and philosophy.” The Arabs of Andalusia (known as "Moors" meaning "dark" - a negative term referring to the Berbers who came from Morocco) treated Christians and Jews with tolerance, enabling them to live, work and learn together in relative peace and harmony. While Europe was struggling through the throes of feudalism, the Moorish aristocracy was promoting private land ownership and encouraging banking. Although there was little or no Muslim proselytizing, societal restrictions on infidels were imposed.3

As Bernard Lewis has noted, for centuries the worldview and self-view of Arab Muslims seemed entirely justified. The Moorish Empire of Andalusia represented the greatest military and economic power in the world, trading in a wide range of commodities through a far-flung network of commerce and communications in Asia, Europe, and Africa; importing slaves, gold and other commodities from Africa, wool from Europe, and exchanging a variety of foodstuffs, materials, and manufactured goods with the civilized nations of Asia. The Moors improved trade and agriculture, patronized the arts, made valuable contributions to science, and established Cordoba as the most sophisticated city in Europe.

They achieved the highest level in the arts and sciences of civilization to that point in human history. Inheriting and translating the scholarly works of the Greeks and Persians, they added new and important innovations from outside, such as the use and manufacture of paper from China and the decimal system imported from India.4 Within the span of two hundred years, the Moors had turned Andalusia into a bastion of culture, commerce and beauty.

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Reply#2 - Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:23 PM EDT
etva

Kathy, I'm enjoying your religious history classes:) But I'm still speechless (shaking my head and blinking) after reading the Esquire article, which I hadn't seen.

  • 2 votes
Reply#3 - Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:36 PM EDT
Kathy Gill

Yes. Blinking. Me, too. (I hate that I share Georgia as my native home with this man.)

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#3.1 - Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:53 PM EDT
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proglib

The Visigothic monastery and church of St. Stephen was built upon a Roman temple. In 711, an agreement was reached between Christians and Muslims to share the structure for purposes of worship – a wall separated the adherents.

Seventy some years later, Abd al-Rahman I decided that he wished to leave a legacy rivaling the mosques of Damascus and Baghdad in his capital of Cordoba. The caliph paid the Christians 80,000 dirhams for the church and monastery. Importing laborers and artisans, the Great Mosque of Cordoba was completed.

Professor David Lewis of New York University in his book “God’s Crucible” described the mosque: “The oldest still-standing Muslim structure on the peninsula, the Great Mosque became, by virtue of its purity of form, the architectural archetype for three cultural zones: Muslim Andalusia, Christian Spain and Hebrew Sefarad.”

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Reply#4 - Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:33 PM EDT
proglib

The Visigothic monastery and church of St. Stephen was built upon a Roman temple. In 711, an agreement was reached between Christians and Muslims to share the structure for purposes of worship – a wall separated the adherents.

Seventy some years later, Abd al-Rahman I decided that he wished to leave a legacy rivaling the mosques of Damascus and Baghdad in his capital of Cordoba. The caliph paid the Christians 80,000 dirhams for the church and monastery. Importing laborers and artisans, the Great Mosque of Cordoba was completed.

Professor David Lewis of New York University in his book “God’s Crucible” described the mosque: “The oldest still-standing Muslim structure on the peninsula, the Great Mosque became, by virtue of its purity of form, the architectural archetype for three cultural zones: Muslim Andalusia, Christian Spain and Hebrew Sefarad.”

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Reply#5 - Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:35 PM EDT
Texasguy01

Thus, rather than being a symbol of Islamic conquest, a comprehensive review suggests Córdoba is a symbol of Christian conquest: approximately 300 500 years* as Islamic versus approximately a millennium as Christian.

You got this point right I think with out realizing it. Religious houses of worship are typically built at certain places as a symbol of conquest. Certain locations have a great symbolic value. Building a (pick one) mosque, cultural center, gathering place, nonreligious place with prayer room, at the sight of a horrific scene of death and destruction that left many Moslem's in particular Palestinians dancing for joy in the street could have a strong symbolic value. To build this at (pick one) ground, zero, two blocks away, two blocks away but really not even close, a broken landing gear away, the very site strikes a chord within all except out liberal friends who tend to not to respond to basic human urges other than a promotion of homosexuality in every form. And even that is a severe paradox to the very thing they are actively promoting here. I find being a liberal is too difficult for me as I can not keep all of the double standards intact in my head and actively promote and believe them all at the same time. My mind is too logical.

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Reply#6 - Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:54 PM EDT
Kathy Gill

Still no bio; still default image.

See my PSA. I'm not wasting time with people who don't make visible efforts to become part of the community.

    #6.1 - Fri Aug 27, 2010 4:14 AM EDT
    Texasguy01

    The reason is very simple. I have received many threats over my years on Newsvine. My honest opinions have at time been incendiary and during the peak years of Obama messiah in 2008 I would receive hundreds of hateful replies. Newsvine to its credit has seen its credit that I am respectful and polite even though I have a different opinion reasoned by facts. The purpose of Newsvine is to share ideas.

    For your information I am a degreed engineer in the DFW area creating real world solutions to fix technical issues. Hence my title "Engineering a better America". That is what I do every day. I make a better America every day. I deal in real costs, real problems and real solutions. I deliver things that work.

      #6.2 - Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:47 AM EDT
      Kathy Gill

      I'm sorry if you have been unfairly attacked on NV. However, keeping your avatar as the default and having NOTHING in your bio (and there is no "title" that I see anywhere on this page - http://skitch.com/kegill/du99h/terry-9.newsvine.com-texasguy01) does not suggest that you want to be part of a community. There is no "rule" (even in my PSA) that the avatar has to be a "real" picture and there is info that be put in a bio while maintaining semi-anonymity.

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      #6.3 - Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:56 PM EDT
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      PaPa23

      Texas guy, is there any possibility that perhaps your mind is too narrow?

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      Reply#7 - Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:18 PM EDT
      Texasguy01

      I know my mind is certainly different. And I do enjoy the diversity of opinions on Newsvine. I used to hear of such people as liberals and they were rumoured to exist. I feel like I have located a lost tribe in the jungle of strange and interesting natives.

        #7.1 - Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:01 AM EDT
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